A Bi-Weekly Podcast with host Fatemeh Keshavarz
I start this episode by describing the concept of the Self – “Khod” in Persian – as an ongoing inner process. I then explore Rumi’s words on the way this Self, when liberated, can become a Lover or “Ashegh,” a site for the glow of the fire of life.
This episode is dedicated to the concept of healing, as Rumi speaks about. In his view, healing is not a thing which happens to us but something that we build gradually. It begins by taking action, observing results, and building on them with more action. To teach us this difficult concept, he uses examples from nature.
In this episode, I talk about seasonal change and the autumn, which we usually see as a sign that the summer has ended. For Rumi, the pale leaves are more than that. Dealing with the short days and cold winds, waiting for the spring, the autumn leaves know the story of lovers’ separation.
In this program I continue to explore what poetry was to Rumi. Sometimes it was the music to his happy moments, and comfort during sadness. But he also used it for more complex things like keeping us curious, or showing us the value in perplexity. Most of all, he loved helping us discover the movement in things that seem unable to move, like grapes’ journey to sweetness. I end with our own journey to Shiraz, again, where Saʿdi’s poetry helped me reach my ailing mother.
In this program, I start by underlining Rumi’s emphasis on the concept of sokhan (‘human speech’). For our poet, human beings are made up of their thoughts, which they give birth to when they speak. Like roads, even superhighways, human speech connects peoples and cultures across cities and continents. Then we do something new: we travel from Konya where Rumi lived all the way to the Southwest of Iran, to hear the Great Saʿdi of Shiraz on the same topic.
In this first of a two-part program, I’ll take you on the cosmic journey that Rumi plans for his readers. “There are thieves in town,” he tells us but who are these thieves, and what do they want? Why does Rumi celebrate their arrival and what does he tell us to do when facing them?
In this program I explore the concept of “birth” in Rumi’s lyric poetry as it applies to the entire cosmos. The convergence of the Winter Solstice, Christmas, and the Iranian Yalda celebrations indicate the symbolic significance of birth in many cultures. What does birth mean to Rumi? How does he put his poetic mark on this universal human experience?
In this program I speak of Rumi’s vision on giving thanks. Describing “patience” and “gratitude” as the twin roads to contentment, Rumi points to our capacity for anticipation as a great source of strength. “The one who has sensed the scent of the rose,” he says ” will dance all the way to the garden.”
In this episode we stroll through one of Rumi’s ghazals with an eye on discovering the vibrancy and glow of this mystical metropolis. In the process we meet a few of its inhabitants some as majestic as Moses, and connect with the core of our own being.
We have all experienced varying levels of isolation in our efforts to slow down a pandemic. In this program I focus on the ways in which Rumi thinks and talks about loneliness and isolation. Was he ever lonely in his own life? What caused it, and how did he speak about it?